Hey Beautiful, So I know I'm late on this but I just got the Goody Spin Pins and I live them. At first I was a little iffy on if they even would work and then thought it would take some playing around with. But no, they are the easiest thing to use and hold so well. Even if you do a loose bun it still holds. There's absolutely no getting used to how they work, just which way to spin the pins. I wish I had bought them sooner. So in short there amazing and worth buying.